"I HEARD A VOICE FROM HEAVEN"

"I HEARD A VOICE FROM HEAVEN" (searchable)
Dr. Henry C. Kinley

Transcribed by Dr. BJaie Gordon,
Treasurer of the Downtown Chicago Branch School, June 1986

Announcer: I'd like to present at this time, the Founder and Dean of this School, Dr. Henry C. Kinley.
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Dr. Kinley: Thank you. I'm indeed happy and glad to be here again, and to talk with you and speak about the things that are pertaining to God and His Purpose and the Kingdom of God...the reality of it. I shall be speaking for quite some time about it, uh, the origin of this world, what it means, how to under- stand something about it, because it is the result of a revelation. I have did everything that is within my power to do, to try to make men and women conscious of the Ever-Presence of God, A LIVING GOD, an up-to-date God, not an antique, uh, or...not a passive... But since I want you to realize that God is alive, and it is not me that I want you to see...to know something about...to understand something about, not that at all. But, I am anxious to convey to your mind the things that God has shown to me, in the year nineteen-hundred and thirty- one (1931). By constant mentioning of...there may be some, become somewhat antagonistical to some, and they may get the wrong conceptions or the wrong idea about it, and think that I mean to pose as some Great One, myself. I want you to know that it...that is a false perception, that is not true. I have never, at any time, tried to impart the idea, that I, myself, amounted to anything. Just another one of the brethren, trying to convey to you the things that God has given to me, to show
to you. And I have tried my best to tell you that I, too, have come up through the experiences that everybody, sitting under the sound of my voice, have had. Belong to this church and that church, and the other organizations, and so forth and so on. I, too, have been taught, and uh, lived as you have lived,
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but in the year, nineteen-hundred and thirty-one (1931), God— I*11 try to talk to you so you can understand me—gave me a Divine Revelation and a Vision. I DID NOT understand the vision when I saw it, I've never tried to make anybody think that I did, I just didn't understand it, see. But, that same day, the meaning of that, uh, vision was revealed to me. And I have told you, many times, that that revolutionized, and it did away with my power of perception of God and His Purpose. It moved me out of the category of skepticism, made me began
to wonder.
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Well, I didn't think that I was the worse fellow, I never have thought that, why, I didn't see where I was any better than anybody else. I never thought that as—I'll tell you like the Apostle Paul said, he said, this is a true saying, and worthy of acceptation, that Yahshua the Messiah came into the world to save sinners, of whom I AM THE CHIEF. That's what he
thought about himself, he was the 'chief sinner'. I believe he was almost justified in making that statement, too. For the simple reason why, because he did lead, uh, the persecutors of the Apostles when they were out to preach, uh, that, the Resur- rection from the Dead. And he held the raiment of them that slew, uh, Stephen, and also, he told the...Timothy, that, that time he said he was a 'blasphemer' and an 'injurious person", because he persecuted, uh, the Assembly of God—you call it the church of God. But he said, I received mercy, because I did it
ignorantly, and through unbelief. He did not realize that he did not know at that time, that so far as the Purpose of God,
in its declaration from the beginning, that he was to be an Apostle. And, all the things that he did, contrary, you under-
stand, was a preparation--see, that meant that he didn't have anything at all to boast of on the part of Paul. He told Felix, Festus and Agrippa said now, 'all of the Jews know how that I persecuted the Church', for a witness. Then, he went on to tell them about the God of his fathers, according to the things that was stipulated in the Scriptures, that had to come to pass, and he said that he didn't have anything to cover-up
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or to hide, one way or the other, because everything that he had said, uh, that caused him to be, uh, in trouble, after he saw the Vision, was nothing more than what Moses and the Pro- phets said would come, see. So, I look at it like the, the Apostle did, he said that...but when it pleased God, but when it PLEASED God, who separated him from his mother's womb, to put him in the Ministry—see now, God put him in there, you see, why then, he was not hesitant, he was obedient to the Heavenly Vision. You see what I mean? And he counted himself happy, so he told Felix, Festus and Agrippa, that's king, priest and governor. They was happy that he was permitted to speak for himself, touching all things wherever the Jews would make that accused, that I want to...now the reason, the things that makes me so happy about it, is this, that ole Agrippa, that's the king, is because I know that you are an expert, you understand, in the Law of the Jews and customs. And so, for that reason, I'm real happy to speak for my...that I'm per- mitted, or, given the opportunity to speak for myself, you see.
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Now, I have laid that kind of a foundation to tell you, that that was in the beginning of the Present Age and Present Dispensation, uh, where the Apostles, uh, come along and preached after Messiah had been crucified, resurrected and ascended and poured out the Holy Spirit. Now we are coming down to the close of this Age, when everything that has transpired, uh, through the Dispensations and Ages—LISTEN!--

it repeats itself, over, and over, and over, and over, and over. There is not a thing in the past, not a thing, but what
isn't in the present, and in the future, not a thing. That's the reason why Messiah said, 'I Am Alpha and Omega, the Begin- ning and the End'. You understand? And His Purpose works with unerring accuracy, with infallibility, through the Dispensa- tions and Ages.
After being Assistant Pastor of the Church of God--I told you many times about it—and having been PUT OUT, just might
as well call the thing straight and get it over with, see, see, SILENCED, uh, I thought it was a pretty bad thing. The thought
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that was within me was, surely, uh, there ought to be...surely, there ought to be some way, whereby, that we could understand the Purpose of God. LISTEN! And if God has appointed a day, wherein He shall judge the world in Righteousness, by that Man whom He hath ordained, surely then, there should be some way that we could call ourselves good Christendom...ought to be able to see eye-to-eye, or face-to-face...1 thought, surely,
there should be some... And it was in my heart to write a book, and go back to the brethren and try to convince them of my honesty and integrity. Folks! So, I got busy and started to write that book. And, I went upstairs in the attic, in my home at that time, and I started to write. Well, I guess I must have worked on it, three or four weeks, maybe longer, or maybe not so long, I don't remember. But anyhow, the thought
come to me is, many men, far smarter than I am, have written many, many books. You understand? I knew of Matthew Henry, commentators Pendelton, Burroughs, and uh, just a lot of com- mentators, and a lot of smart theologians, you understand, that had written books, so, me writing a book won't have any more
influence on Christendom, out there, then what the books that they have written, so that won't do. I QUIT! I took my little dog and went on upon the, uh, the uh, creek, and I sat down up there for nearly two years, in that melancholy state, backwards and forwards I lived the days, alone and by myself, nobody but me and my dog. And I looked at nature in its simplicity and
in its reality, and I wondered to myself, surely, there ought to be some way that God could judge the world in Righteousness, there ought to be some way to convince mankind, see. If it can't be done now, and it's a matter of utter impossibility to convince mankind, and for us to become reconciled...those of us who would have sat, you understand, then I could see no future, potential possibility of it, see. And, I remember being in my dining room and rocking, in the rocking chair, and I was look- ing at the wall, I just newly had my house re-papered, and I was looking at how beautiful this wallpaper was, before I had planned to make my departure—now, if you listen at what I'm
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telling you it is important, see—and then, I had one of the greatest, stupendous visions, I believe, that has ever been given to any man. It was not out of harmony with nothing that had been revealed here, before, it was not out of harmony... that was revealed to Moses and the Prophets and the Apostles.
I told you after I had the Vision, I didn't understand it, and then, I went into another, uh, state of, uh, I might just say 'took out of the world,' understand, and there was ex- plained to me, you see, or in other words, the, the meaning of the vision that I had was revealed to me. Now, the thing I'm trying to tell you about is this, I didn't think that I was so bad, myself, or any worse than anybody else, and so God had to go through all that trouble just on my account, to get me saved, you see. And I thought then, evidently it must be for someone else, as much so as it is for me, see. So then, I said well,
I'll go out and tell somebody about it. NO! It silenced me, I couldn't go and tell nobody nothing. Because, I realized that the thing that I would tell them they would not believe no how. Youunderstand? Ididn'tbelieveit...til...beforeIhadthe Vision and the Revelation, you see, so now, I'm just up against
it. So then, there isn't but one thing that it taught me to do, just one thing, and that was this, was to draw out these charts. And try to convey to somebody's mind, you see, the Divine—LISTEN—the Divine Authenticity, the Unerring Accur- acy, the Infallibility, of God and His Purpose, as was revealed to Moses and the Prophets, that Messiah DID COME in the World at the "appointed time", He lived, He fulfilled the Law the the Prophecy to the very jot and tittle, or, to the letter. And
then, after He Fulfilled it, then all the carnality, or, all the literal, all of the physical, all of the natural, was moved out. The Purpose was this, that we might worship God in Spirit and Truth. That God DID seek man to worship Him in Spirit and in Truth. Now, Paul had made a statement like this--now you
listen, cause everything I'm saying to you now, you see, is vitally important to your salvation. Here said, He would
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had Scribes, Sari...Sadducees, and about six different factions of them back there. Now, He said He would bring to nought... destroy the Wisdom of the Wise and bring to nought the Under- standing of the Prudent. See what I mean? Now, just reading that makes no difference, people just read that in a passive
sense, in a passive way, He said that He come to Fulfill. Matt. 5:17 - "Think not, that I come to destroy the Law or the Prophets, but I come to Fulfill, and verily, verily, I tell you, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass until it is
all Fulfilled". Right? Now, here is the destruction of the Wisdom of the Wise and to bring to nought the Understanding of the Prudent, here is where Paul got in trouble. You see what I mean? This is how he became a 'blasphemer' and an 'injurious person', because he was sentenced of keeping the Law. You
understand? And he said, as touching the Law, when he was per- secuting, he was blameless. That Sanhedrin Council... though those soldiers that were, that were at the tomb, when He was buried in Joseph's new tomb, hewn out in the rocks, those soldiers were there at that tomb, went up to the Sanhedrin Council—now, you listen at me—and told them that He had risen from the dead, as He said! Now, they went and made that report, to all seventy of 'em, see. Now what they did was BRIBE the soldiers. Don't let this get out into the community, you understand, and they gave them money. Now, if it does get out, then, our last err will be worse than the first. Now, the
first err they made was to crucify the Son of God. You under- stand? And they said now, that that "Deceiver" saith, that He would raise from the dead, on the third day! Now, you go and seal up the sepulcher and make it as sure as you can, they asked that provision. So then, they sealed up the sepulcher, to make it safe, see, and put a guard down there at it--You understand?--those soldiers right there, I'm talking about, you see. And when...to make a long story short and try to hold the continuity of thought, you see, an Angel of the Lord descended and rolled the stone away, and sat upon it, now, that's gospel according to Matthew, Mark and Luke. Right? And they went up
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there and told the Sanhedrin Council that. Now, so then, the Apostle Paul, who was at...who wasn't called Apostle, you understand, he was there studying at the feet of Gamaliel. And
just like a lot of people, you understand, was 'aspiring to, uh, be a somebody', you understand, wanted to be 'something'. So then, they...the Sanhedrin Council, gave him credentials, you see, and sent him out to persecute those Apostles. You understand? Now, it was their job to go, see and anyone that disobeyed the Law, why then, it was their job to go and see to
them being put to death, according to the, to the Law. But now, THEM HYPOCRITES SAT THERE, they wouldn't go themselves, you understand, and they sent Paul out to do that. You get the point? And give him letters of authority to do—You under-
stand what I mean?—to do their job, and they sat back in seclusion. You see? You get it now? So then he, with these letters of authority, he went out to persecute them that was preaching the Resurrection from the Dead. You understand? And Yahshua the Messiah appeared to him on the highway going to Damascus and asked him...called him by name, Saul...he wanted to go back and jump on them, uh, that Sanhedrin Council, that sent him out there like that, you understand, he wanted to go back and jump on 'em, you see, but He said, No, don't do that, you go on down to Damascus where you started and there'll be
somebody down there to tell you what to do. Isn't that right? So, he went on down...Straight street in Damascus, and he met, uh, the proper authorities down there in the house of Judas. And they told him...the Lord promised to have some there, and told him what they were going to do. Now listen, instead of him going back to Jerusalem, there, he went to Arabia..sent him to Arabia. Now I haven't heard very much of, uh, explanations of why he went into Arabia, see, to the Ministry, you see, and why he couldn't go back to Jerusalem, you see.
And that brings me to my text. I very seldom...I very seldom have a text, I just usually preach the Bible, but this morning I have a text. My text will be found in the 14th chap-
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ter of Revelation, and the second verse. Now when you have found it, please read.
READER: "And, I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters; and, as the voice of a great thunder. And I heard the voice of harpers, harping with their harps."
DR.KINLEY: "Iheardavoicefromheaven1,THATismytext. Now what I mean by that, is this...this is John saying that, that he heard a voice from heaven. Now he didn't say he heard
a voice from the Vatican, he didn't say he heard a voice of the General Council, he told you unmistakably where he had hear the voice, 'I heard a voice from Heaven, as a sound of many waters'. Now what I'm telling you is this, just as John and Moses heard that Voice from Heaven, I'm trying to tell you that I, too,
'Heard that Voice from Heaven'. And I have been under the impression for thirty-five years—You understand?—that I heard that Voice from Heaven. Not because I was such a bad, or such a good man, one way or the other, see, it was because I was searching... I didn't realize that that was what I was being prepared for, through my fifteen years that I was Assistant Pastor--You understand me?--the Gospel that I would preach. I didn't know all those experiences lead up to the same thing, you understand, but that morning when I heard that Voice from Heaven...you remember I told you that I had been in a quandry
...I had a quandry - WHY? and HOW? Since there was so many sects and cults and denominations and creeds in the world, since we're all plagued, God has appointed a Day, wherein He shall judge the World in Righteousness, by that Man whom He hath Ordained. See? I couldn't see no possibility of Univer- sal Reconciliation, you see, because each and everyone wants to hold on to their particular religious concepts, as did the Pharisees and Sadducees in the days when Messiah was here, you see. You understand? So, in the hearings of that voice from Heaven, every time I read Revelation, every time I read about Moses, it is as vivid in my heart and mind, today, as it was
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then. You understand? And as I said before, I knew that it wouldn't do any good, to go out there in the World and try to tell them, you understand, but it was that I had a message... had received a message to give to them. So then, that made me proceed to draw out these charts. Now, I told you the other
night, that these charts here, that are drawn out, we have had them in universities, we've had them before smart men and they are many years old. This one here, beat that one over there being the first one that I tried to teach from, that's the
first one I made, you recall its the Pattern and Plan of Sal- vation. And nobody, from nowhere, up until this time...up until this very day, has ever been able to refute it and it is
futile. YES, we've had people to come in school that never understood, you understand, and they will say that, I don't think this...well, they didn't...they didn't know what they was
looking at, they didn't understand it. You see what I mean? And those that did make some kind of a study of it, all that they could do was fall in line with it, because I just put down here just what I saw. It's to the very best of my ability, and
I know the art is not of today, you understand I know the art is not up-to-date. Now listen at me folks, this is serious, see. Along with that come the knowledge...that Vision and Revelation, come the knowledge of Prophecy. I have told you every major historical event that's happened in the world to-date. You are my witness! People have been healed of all kinds of disease, all across this country, verified and con- firmed by medical authorities. I told you...to kind of specify a little, a few things, to enumerate a few things, I told you about Roosevelt's last run for the President of the United States of America, that he would be nominated, elected, and he would not be in the White House one year from that day, all you have to do is consult history about it, see. I told you, way back before '35' about the Second World War, and wrote the President of the United States of America about it. I told him when the Nations would go to war and what would happen and so
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just like I said. There is a man sitting in the audience, that uh, worked with me—You understand the Purpose?—just one man. That, when the announcement come from the White House that uh, they were visiting Wright Aeronautical Plant, in Lockton, Ohio, they said that there would be an announcement from the White House, said, all the employees sit down, do nothing, see, and wait for that broadcast to come in the shop, shut all machinery
down. And one of the brethren, sitting in the audience... sit- ting in the congregation right now, walked in my office, I had a office there too, he walked in my office and he said to me; Well, is this it? Is this the day? I said, No, there will be no announcement that the war is terminated as of today, as you have previously heard that there would be, said, it wouldn't happen, not today, because that's not the date that was shown to me in the Vision, you understand, back in 1931. That man is
sitting in... Would you mind standing up that man? Would you mind standing up? That's right, thank you. I made another announcement in that same plant, and I got arrested by the F.B.I. I been in plenty trouble, see, about this Voice that I heard from Heaven—You see what I mean?—been in plenty trouble,
see, I did have a method to take it away. You see? And I said this, that there would be a governmental investigation in Wright Aeronautical Plant within thirty days, and the top executives and officials of that plant would lose their jobs if the F.B.I, got me and put me on the carpet. And they told me that I had to repudiate or withdraw my statement, because if I didn't I had made myself subject to discharge, immediate dis- charge. I had on a suit of overalls, and at the time my job was to mop the floor, wipe up oil. I had a mopcart just like anybody else, see. So then, they carried me up there and they
asked me did I make that statement, I said yes, I did, I cer- tainly did. But I didn't know who the F.B.I, was. See, when I heard my name called on the public address system, I never did...I ignored it because it wasn't nobody but officials called on that thing, see. Then, when I heard my name called, I, I wondered to myself, I didn't know that there was another
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Henry C. Kinley in there, and I...but I just ignored it. You know what I mean? Well, I was supposed to go to the telephone and answer the call, you understand, I wouldn't go. So, George Stingline and the, uh, the uh, the uh, guard, there at the plant, come and got me. And while I'm on George Stingline, I want to tell you about him. George Stingline, afterwards, become the Secretary of this United - inaudible - See? I said,
there would be a... Harry S. Truman walked through Wright Aeronautical Plant within thirty days, and top officials there, they'd lose their jobs! Just like I said! Now here I go back on the carpet again. FOR WHAT?!! They didn't tell me, they
said they wanted to see you up in the Personnel Department. And so, I went up in the Personnel Department, the guard right along with me, see, with my same overalls on, you see. Under- stand? But I had told that man when I was up there before, when I speak, I HAVE SPOKEN, you see. And I just ripped my overalls down, see, as of now I AM FIRED, because I REFUSE to
take back what I said, cause when I SPEAK I HAVE SPOKEN, THAT'S THE WAY IT IS! That's just what I told him. You see what I mean? So he said, No...sent me on back to work, you understand, but told me...cautioned me, keep my mouth shut, just like they did th... You understand? See what I'm talking about, see?-- Told me to keep my mouth shut, you see. Well, I wouldn't
promise 'em...I told them just like Peter and 'em said, you understand, 'you be the judge, whether it's right in the sight of God', you understand. So, they sent me on back and I went back to mopping. And when the officials lost their jobs, back on the carpet I went again, you understand. And they say, as of now, you are fired, fired off of that job of mopping the
floor, you don't mop no more floors here, your office is in the South Shop basement, already arranged for you. Take the overalls off and the guards will direct you and carry you to yourposition. 'IDON'TWANTNOJOBOF,ofuh,uh,notlike that!'; I said, I want to mop the floors...they said, I'm sorry, you can't mop the floors. TAKE HIM OUT, you see, and so, like I...they let me out... Dr. Allen knows I'm telling
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the truth about that, see, because he was a constant visitor, I had charge of distribution of supplies and what not, all over that plant, it was the biggest airplane plant there was in the world, at that time. But I didn't feel like worrying with
that, then coming out of there and worrying with the Insurance in the daytime, 'cause I worked day and night and tried to teach the School on top of it, you see,—See?—didn't want it.
Now the reason why I'm mentioning these things to you is to call your attention back in these things, I'm trying to tell you that whatever God says... reveals, see, whether you believe in it or not, you understand, or, whether you ever heard it before or not, it's so anyhow. And I want to let you know, too, that it did not come from gazing in no crystal ball, you
see. And every since then I have told you of every major thing in the world. I told you about John F. Kennedy, getting in the presidential category again. You was sitting there... you that are sitting there under the sound of my voice know whether I did or no, and know whether I'm lying, because, you understand, you've heard it, you understand. I told you that John F. Kennedy would be nominated, elected and assassinated,
see. Now, he was not elected--You understand?—by the right count of votes, it's a trick to it, see, I knew that. You see the point? But I knew that they would smooth that one over
and Nixon wouldn't, couldn't, contest it. You understand? But the, you, you know, you, most of you that sit under the sound of my voice, know whether it's so or not, whether it...whether he, whether he was assassinated or not, you know. See, I didn't ask you what church you come from, I said, you know that he was! See? You see what I mean? I told you about the Alas- kan earthquake. I told you about...on the tenth of April,
about that submarine being on the bottom of the sea. Right? And I told you, before I left here in...the eleventh of May, to go to Ohio, I told you there would be earthquakes, everywhere. Didn't I tell you that? Well, I DON'T WHAT YOU TO THINK, you understand, at anything...I don't want you to think, I don't want you to get the idea, you understand, that that is me and I
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think that I'm so great or anything of the kind. You under- stand? I don't want you to get that idea because that is not it. You see what I mean? I just want to say and tell you that the things that is written in this Book, you see, you under- stand, THEY ARE TRUE! YES! There is interpolations and mistranslations there--You understand?--mistakes and errors, in other words, for those of you who can't understand those words. But generally and overall, this Book is right, which
we call the Bible. And don't forget I told you that God is an up-to-date God, is Ever-Present.
You know, of the hypothesis of recent data, that God is dead. Now the reason why those things are said is because the present day ministry that is preaching to people is preaching their education and theirself, and their understanding and comprehension of it. And there is no heart-to-heart feeling of
the Ever-Presence of God in them...in them...that too is not quite done according to the way it should be—You see what I mean, you see, you understand?--that's it. Now I want to tell you this, now that will almost be a fixer, see, I told you many times that His Name is not Jesus, as is said in your Bible
...Jesus Christ, His Name is YAHSHUA the Messiah, see. I showed you why, I showed you what God's name was, that you call God, I showed you what His Name was—YAHWEH—or YAH. YAH is the most important, you see. You understand?
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I've seen and I've heard, you understand, that. Now let me get on down after my text and work with this a little bit. Now, in the first chapter of Revelation, I want you to read the intro- duction back there. Now whoever reads, read fast, because I want to get through here.
READER: "The revelation of Jesus Christ..."
DR. KINLEY: "The revelation of Jesus Christ..." Read.
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READER: "The revelation of Yahshua the Messiah..." DR. KINLEY: Read on.
READER: "...which Yahweh gave unto Him..."
DR. KINLEY: Huh-uh. "...which Yahweh..." LISTEN FOLKS! THAT IS THE GOD OF THIS UNIVERSE'S NAME!! HE'S RELUCTANT to be known or called by any other name, so say the Scriptures. Now, I don't have time to go into that, you see. Alright! And Yahshua, I told...now listen, let me see if I can show it to you. Freddie, do something, put it on the board, put, uh, I showed you the other night, it's almost necessary in these last days to put these things up there, put YAHSHUA and YAHWEH on the board and show them the relationship one with the other. And in the meantime—LISTEN FOLKS!—now look up here at me and
listen to me, don't pay no attention to Freddie, you see, because I got to get this over. Now, Yahshua the Messiah said in the fifth chapter of St. John...'I HAVE COME IN MY FATHER'S
NAME...'. You see? Now everybody in here, you understand, when you're BORN IN THE FAMILY, you understand, DON'T YOU TAKE YOUR FATHER'S NAME? ANSWER ME!!!
AUDIENCE: Yes!!
DR. KINLEY: It is not God. You understand? And if His Father's Name was YAHWEH, then His Son's name would have to be, uh, something similar to it, for Him to come in the family, and JESUS CHRIST IS NO PARTS OF IT, you understand, so it's not true. And there isn't a Jew in the world, today, that knows anything at all about it, to whom the adoption and the cove- nants and all was given, and THEY'LL DIE THE DEATH OF AN OUTCAST DOG BEFORE THEY'LL EVER ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST, BECAUSE
IT IS NOT SO...no person in it, you see. Now you can swell
up if you want to, but that's the truth. You see what I mean? Get me? Now I don't want to argue about it, either, I just
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told you about it, you see. I'm not here this morning to argue with nobody about anything, I'm here to tell you about I heard a voice from Heaven, you understand, and I'm here to show you what I heard in that voice from Heaven, see. And it carried me on back, you understand, carried...that Vision carried me clear
on back into the Godhead Itself, as you call it, you under- stand. Made me see...listen folks!...UNDERSTAND AND KNOW GOD, AS HE REALLY IS AND AS HE ACTUALLY EXISTS! THAT is the thing that I have been trying my best to get over to you in this School. I told you repeatedly this School never would have an existence had it not been for just that! THE TURTH IS OFFENSIVE, IT'S OFFENSIVE TO THE WORLD...THEY'RE NOT GOING TO ACCEPT IT, they didn't accept the Truth when Yahshua the Messiah, Who is the Truth Itself...you know YOURSELF, that the Sanhedrin Council would not accept it, so it's no new thing. You see what I mean? Now here, we have...here, repeat what you
just read, there, in the first chapter of Revelation.
READER: "The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto Him..."
DR. KINLEY: "The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto Him..." Read.
READER: "...to show unto His servants..."
DR. KINLEY: Now, NOT JUST TO TELL THEM ABOUT IT, but TO SHOW unto His servants. Read, please!
READER: "...things which must shortly come to pass..."
DR. KINLEY: "...THINGS WHICH MUST SHORTLY COME TO PASS..."
Now I want to put some pressure on there. I told you to begin with, THERE IS NOTHING...NOT A THING, THAT IS TO COME TO PASS WHAT WHAT HADN'T ALREADY COME TO PASS. Somebody would jump up and say, LISTEN, YOU'RE WRONG ABOUT THAT. I BEG YOUR PARDON, I
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AM NOT WRONG ABOUT IT. Well, why did you say that? Because if it's a creation...a new creation, you understa...to come to past...yet to come to pass, don't you realize, to begin with, WHEN GOD CREATED THIS PRESENT UNIVERSE, IT was due at that time—You understand?—and THE WAY HE CREATED THAT, you see, IS THE SAME WAY HE'LL CREATE A NEW ONE, you understand, and THAT will come to pass, that's in the Hereafter, you understand.
So then, SINCE IT WAS IN THE HEREAFTER, IT WAS ALREADY IN THE BEGINNING. You understand what I mean? You see what I mean? See now, when He was here you only had two thousand years, you see, and they--and I don't want to argue with no idiot about that, either—You understand what I'm talking about?—I don't want to argue about that, just two thousand years. And now,
it's the Purpose and Plan that's got to repeat itself over and over, over and over. Now, let me get into the close of this. Now John is telling you here, you understand, the revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him the answers to show unto His servants, things which must shortly come to pass, you under-
stand. And he went on further and said this, now listen, I have to cut some of these things up short, 'cause I want some- body else to, to have something to say too, the things which must shortly come to pass, you understand. Now what's happen-
ing is this, is that Purpose is just working over and over, repeated down through the Dispensations and Ages. Listen carefully, listen carefully now, you understand, now here with John was one, uh, that was out there on the Isle of Patmos, you understand, he was out there to hear and to see it in a Vision, that's what the man's purpose was, was there, was to confirm what Moses and them had said about the Creation and about the history, and about the things that had already been in the past. You understand what I'm talking about? Now he was--
listen—here's what I mean by that. He, Messiah, had told the Disciples...His Apostles, He said, now some of you...said, the Devil will put into prison, you understand, and some of you he will put to death. Ain't that right? But said now, "Be thou
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under...you understand that? And so now, when He's telling each one of them what's all that's going to befall them, you understand, before He ascended, you understand, then there was one man there, you know, he wanted to know, uh, since He didn't
say anything about him—and that was John, you understand, He never told us about what was going to happen to John. Ain't that right? Now what's going to happen to him? And so He said to him, said, 'what if I Will that he tarry, til I come, what
is that to thee?' Ain't that right? But now, HIS LIFE...the thing I'm trying to tell you is this, HIS LIFE is preserved through all that murderous scrape, you understand, through all that imprisonment, and through all of the trials and tribula- tions, God brought him out of it every time, so that he could be prepared to be on the Isle of Patmos to receive, uh, you understand, the Vision, to CONFIRM what Moses and the Prophets had seen. You understand? And then, Yahshua the Messiah had
to prove His...everything that uh, uh, Moses and the Prophets had said. Ain't that right? Now he had to be a witness to it you under...out there, that's why he was out there on...and,
I've tried repeatedly, to show you this, that when Moses, when he went up into the mountain...uh Freddie, get busy and get that thing out of the way there, somehow or another. Uh, uh, do something, I'm up against it! You understand what I'm talk- ing about? When Moses went up here into the mountain and he
saw that Great Heavenly Anthropomorphic Being, as we often express it, or, here in Exodus 24:9 and 10...Brother, IT'S IN THE BOOK!! You understand? He say—it's in the Book—that Moses WAS called in the midst of the Cloud--Ain't that right? --and then, he saw in the midst of the cloud, he saw THAT
figure. Ain't that right? You see what I'm talking about? Up in the mountain, the Cloud covered the mountain and Moses saw it up there. Ain't that right? And now Moses, what he saw in that Cloud up there—You understand?--or, while he was to write it in a book, you understand, and the book was to be dedicated —Ain't that right?—and sprinkled with blood, it was, uh, a covenant. Ain't that right? Now in here, he saw Him as a
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Great Heavenly Anthropomorphic Being. Now listen close at me, because, you see, you don't hear this kind of preaching and teaching often, you understand. Now what Moses seen, as pertaining to the creation, or, I'm talking about the physical universe now, he said that, 'in the beginning, uh, uh, God created the Heaven and the Earth and the wor...the Earth was void—Ain't that right?—and the...I'm just making a long story
short and trying to tell you how you...so you can see it, you understand. In the first chapter of Genesis, he's writing what he saw in the Vision, you understand, uh, them that...Moses didn't know anything or more about what God did on the first day, second day, and the fact of the matter, God never done nothing on no day no how. You understand? 'Cause GOD CREATED THE...THE UNIVERSE IN THE REALM OF ETERNITY, HE DIDN'T CREATE
IT IN NO DAYS, or nothing like that!! Now you see what I'm talking about? Because God'd have to have 'a day' in order to create 'a day within a day'. You understand what I'm talking about? THAT was in the Realm of Eternity. THIS UNIVERSE HASN'T...DIDN'T, COME IN EXISTENCE IN NO DAYS, NOTHING LIKE THAT!! Now God inhabited Eternity, and when Moses headed into the midst of that Cloud, you understand, and God...he heard, you understand, just like John heard on the Isle of Patmos, you understand, John said, 'I heard a voice from Heaven!' Here's Moses back here, 'HEARING THE VOICE FROM HEAVEN'! He said, I heard it, you understand, and he said, and the voice said, 'LET
THERE BE LIGHT', and there was light. Moses is hearing some- thing, too. You understand what I'm talking about? And he went on down into the second day and HE HEARD THE VOICE AGAIN, said, 'Let the Waters from beneath the Earth be divided from the Waters from above', Moses is hearing--You understand?-- everything and he's seeing--Ain't that right?--just like John, out on the Isle of Patmos, he's hearing and he's seeing. You understand what I'm talking about? And if what Moses wrote down was the Truth, then, it's got to be confirmed by John on the Isle of Patmos. John said this out there on the Isle of
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Moses—Ain't that right?—in the beginning of his Vision. It doesn't mean in the Beginning of the Creation...(the tape has an interruption at this point)... You understand what I'm talking about? NO, THAT'S NOT THE BEGINNING OF CREATION, the Creation of the Heavens and the Earth, that's not the Beginning of Creation! Ain't that right? But well then, if that's not
the Beginning of Creation, THEN WHAT IS THE BEGINNING OF CREATION?!! You understand? I want you to see what the actual Beginning of Creation was, when God or YAHWEH, who is Spirit and compre... incomprehensible, you can't see Him, you can't hear Him, you can't taste, you can't smell, NOTHING!! There-
fore, if you can't perceive it exact, you understand, you can't give no description of it, at all. Ain't that right? Well, He--Zap--had to take on shape and form, and that is Elohim, that you got...have down...up there--You understand?--and that's this up here, this shape and form, which comes from Pure
Spirit. Ain't that right? And He takes on that shape and form and He had to take on that shape and form BEFORE HE BEGAN TO CREATE ANYTHING!! Ain't that right? And Moses now, is seeing Him there, he sees Him first--Ain't that right?—uh, in this
shape and form, uh, let's see how that figures out. Right? Then if that's true, then Moses saw Him first, you understand, then he sees the Earth surrounded by water, there...I'm talking about Moses now, you see. Then, for John to verify and to confirm, he can't see nothing different. Ain't that right? And Moses said, the waters...the Spirit of God moved upon the
face of the waters and the Earth was inundated or surrounded by waters. Ain't that right? That's what Moses saw in the Begin- ning of his Vision—Ain't that right?--of the Creation of the physical Heavens and Earth, you understand. Now we catch the,
the validity of the story. Now here is John, you understand, HE'S GOT TO BE IN THE SELFSAME CONDITION! John is on the Isle of Patmos, and an island is certainly that which is surrounded by water, as Moses said, in the beginning that it, the Earth was surrounded by water. Ain't that right? And he HEARD Him speak, heard that voice from Heaven. And John is out here on
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the Isle of Patmos—as I told you--to verify and to confirm it, so he got to be on an island surrounded by water. I just got through telling you that Moses saw Him in a vision, there as a, as a Man. You understand? And there, uh, the Spirit of God— Ain't that right?—it spoke with him, that he heard from Heaven. You understand? He turned to see that...he saw the selfsame thing that Moses had seen, when he was up in the mountain—You understand?—and here he is out there on the Isle of Patmos, you understand. And now, here it goes on, uh, down to confirm everything that was done, you understand, and as we go on down and we see that what Moses has written and what John has written in the Book, and the things that, as we told you,
that shall be Hereafter, we're showing you how it was nothing else but just the constant repetition, over and over and over. And when John turned around there and Moses, you see, said, he saw the Tabernacle... said, he saw the Sanctuary up there, and he was told to make that. Isn't that right? And now, here, John describes Him, said He had...this is the Sanctum of Sanctorums, you understand, just like this is the Transfigur-
ation of Him. And now, Mos...John is on the Isle of Patmos, saying, 'His eyes were as flames of fire'--Ain't that right? —and, 'His feet as burnished brass'. And when you look at the Pattern at the Outer..Outer Court, here, you see the vessels, a Brazen Altar and a Brazen Lav...BRAZEN—You understand?—that's down at the feet there, you understand, that's what Moses is seeing. And when he was told to make that Tabernacle, or make that, uh, because it is a Pattern or a figure of Heavenly things. You understand what I'm talking about? And so Moses made it just like it was. So then, this is Him transfigured,
so that His feet has got to be as the feet of burnished brass. And then, when John looked at Him, he saw Him 'walking in the Midst of the Seven Golden Candlesticks'. Somebody says, well,
listen Doc, I want you to come on up out of the Old Testament. You see what I'm talking about? I want you to read to me over here in the New Testament. Well, I beg your pardon, you just don't understand what the New Testament is, you don't under-
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stand no parts of it, because this is as far over as you get, now, and John says that he saw Him walking in the Midst of the Seven Golden Candlestick and He had the Seven Stars in His right hand. Ain't that right? You understand what I'm talking about? And He said now, 'John, what you see, you write it in a book and send it to the SEVEN CHURCHES, WHICH IS IN ASIA!I
That pains the Devil! Now, you understand? And here he comes and says that John and uh, he was now elected the second pope, after the death of Peter, you understand, but it was Linus, and so forth and so on. And you don't see where that God told him to send, uh, his manuscript out to the Vatican to have it imprimatured by anybody there, He said, 'send it to the Seven Churches, which is in Asia'—Ain't that right?--that's what the voice of Heaven, from Heaven, said to send it to. Ain't that
right? And that's where John sent it, was to the Seven Churches in Asia. Now sometimes I wonder, uh, why that he said
send it to the Seven Churches which is in Asia, and now then, for that reason we had that map drawn out down yonder, you understand, so that you can see where that the Seven Assem- blies...to the Seven Churches in Asia, and JUST BEFORE HE ASCENDED, He told them, He said, 'When ye, therefore shall see the Abomination of Desolation, spoken of by Daniel the Prophet, STAND IN THE HOLY PLACE, whosoever readeth, let him understand1; understand what the Holy Place is. Ain't that right? Now when you begin to check it out by the Pattern, this is the Outer Court, this uh, the Holy Place here, and then, you pass on through the Vail and you go into the Most Holy Place. And this
is synonymous and symbolical to the Throne of God, where John is hearing the Voice, uh, from, from Heaven. You understand? And now he's standing in the...John's in the Holy Place here, see. Now when you get it all figured out, according to the geographical maps of the Earth, there goes Freddie again. You understand? And then Peter, he went on to Babylon—Ain't that right?—the Papacy say...the Devil say he didn't go to, to Babylon, they say he went to Rome. Ain't that right? But the, uh, Stone that was cut loose in the mountain, it rolled on down
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through Babylon, down through Media and Persia, Grecia, and on down into Rome. Ain't that right? And when Messiah was tell-
ing Peter about when he was young he girded himself and he went where he wanted to, but WHEN HE WAS OLD, uh, that he would be girded by someone else and took someplace where he didn't want
to go. Ain't that right? You see what I'm talking about? And there, if you look up the history of it you'll find that Peter was in, uh, Mary Mark's house—Ain't that right?—the mother of John Mark, and I don't have time to go into all of the story. You see what I'm talking about? But it had been PRE-DETERMINED, you understand, uh, back in the prophecies that Peter was to go to Babylon. You understand? And so Mark girded Peter, and he
took him on into the head of that thing, you understand. Uh and, that head, uh this, uh, is a, is uh, is boss, uh, this head here,—You understand me?—took him on into the head, or took him on into Babylon, and Peter died there, too. Ain't that right? And now here's Apostle Paul, I told you about him, he went on to Rome. Ain't that right? And John, he went to the Isle of Patmos. Now if you look where the geographical
location of the Isle of Patmos is, you'll find it in the chest cavity. Ain't that right? And that's where John was at, in the Sabbath, on the scene... in the Spirit, on the Lord's Day, and he heard that Voice from Heaven saying, 'Write!' Ain't that right? He was in the Spirit and heard that voice saying, uh, uh, what you see to write it in a book and send it to the Seven Churches which is in Asia. Now that didn't come from Asia, as I've already told you of what Moses had wrote, and what Moses had seen. You understand? And now, uh, his Life was preserved that he be on the Isle of Patmos, you understand,
and he cleared up so that Genesis, Revelation and ALL of that would come together. You understand? And it would be a con-
firmation that this whole entire Revelation, you understand, from Genesis to Revelation, or, from modern day beliefs are entirely different, that means their arguments, uh, uh, the Beginning and the Endings, and there would be no, uh, fool- ishness in its operations and its functions. And now when I
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saw and I understood, in the Vision that I have seen, then it was contrary to what I had in my mind. So then, I had to go on back and I had to show you, THAT I SAW THE SELFSAME VISION that Moses saw. I saw the selfsame Vision that John saw, on the
Isle of Patmos, and I COME TO IMPART IT TO YOU, in the closing of this Dispensation and in the closing of this Age. And it's up to YOU whether you want to believe or not. You understand? And the things that I say to you, I know good and well that Theologians are not going to believe me, any more so than the Sanhedrin Council believed in Messiah and the Apostles in those days. But nevertheless, IT IS TRUE! Ain't that right? And so
now, I want you to see here, how this, uh, Chinese man, you see, so that you can see that what Moses seen about building the Sanctuary, which he seen and about the figure here. You understand? And I want to bring it on down through the Ages, so that you can see. Now we talked about Moses seeing and hearing that Voice from Heaven—You understand?—it's got to be confirmed. You see what I'm talking about? Moses, back there hearing—listen close—you see, because IT'S HARD TO UTTER. That's the reason why Paul said, 'I knew a man, above fourteen
years ago, that was exalted up into the third heaven, and HEARD THINGS IMPOSSIBLE FOR A MAN TO UTTER!' If the Holy Spirit don't utter it through me, you understand, I can't utter it to
save my life! Your education is insufficient and inadequate! Ain't that right? Uh, and then, neither can you understand it, you understand, unless you, uh, kind of, uh, give some attention to it. You can't fool with the baby and think about the biscuits, or uh, something you left on the stove, you're not going to do to well even after you have listened close and
tried to understand. You understand? You're not going to do to well at that. You see what I'm talking about? But, I want you to see, uh, and I want you to understand, and I want you to understand the Vision that was given to me to confirm what Moses and all of the Prophets and John on the Isle of Patmos, and I want you to see how it fits together with unerring accuracy. And, I have said, repeatedly, time and time again,
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if what God had seen, uh, showed me in a vision, if it, uh, didn't uh, confirm what the rest of 'em said, it wasn't no good. But if it confirmed it you can't deny it and the same things will judge you in the last day. Ain't that right? You
see what I want? And I'm trying to give you an opportunity to assess and I'm telling you ALL the time, that out yonder in the Christendom, they are not going to allow you to preach and to teach like this, at all. You understand? Because the first of all, they don't know themselves what they're talking about.
You understand what I mean? So now here it, uh, God, uh, told uh, Moses to make all things according to the Pattern which was shown him in the Mount. Ain't that right? And so now, Moses, when he come down out of the Mount, he had everything according to that Pattern which was shown him in the Mount. You under-
stand? And that Pattern was a, was uh, was the Tabernacle or the Sanctuary. It had a Most Holy Place, it had a Holy Place and an Outer Court. Now it was three-fold, one, two, three, there it is, there. Right? And that was a PATTERN AND—LISTEN! -IT WAS A PATTERN AND FIGURE OF EVERYTHING THAT THERE IS IN EXISTENCE! IT DON'T MAKE NO DIFFERENCE WHAT IT IS! GOD AND
THE CREATION! That's the Pattern of it! You understand? And if you don't understand that, you don't know what it's all about, it don't make no difference where you come from and it don't make no difference about your credentials and it don't make no difference about your education, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT. YOU UNDERSTAND? YOU JUST DON'T KNOW, THAT'S ALL IT IS TO IT!! You understand? And now, I've said that and when I speak I have spoken. You understand what I'm talking about? So it's no need of it to go into it. You understand? Mo...God told Moses to make...you heard that Voice, now, you make it like I told you...heard that Voice from Heaven, you understand, you make it like I told you. No sooner than Moses had descended the mountain, you understand, he saw them down
there worshipping the Golden Calf. Ain't that right? You understand? Moses threw down the Tables of Stone and, and broke the Tables of Stone. Somebody says he broke the Law. I
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beg your pardon, he broke the Tables of Stone, you understand ...it's a lie, it says he broke the Tables of Stone, it didn't say that he broke the Law. Ain't that right? You see what I'm
talking about? Let me go on and try to finish it. And then, uh, Moses begin to tell them, uh, making a long story short, how the Tabernacle that he received in the Mount had finished
...was supposed to be constructed, and how it was supposed to build...be built. And there Abiram, Dathan and Korah, down there at the foot of the mountain and they thought they knew so much about architecture and how to, uh, build...do construction work, more than Moses. God had showed Moses and He didn't tell Moses that the things he was talking about was wrong...don't build it like this. Moses didn't have time to fool with them
—You see what I'm talking about?--said, just drew a line, said now, whoever's on the Lord's side, said, you get on this side and whoever's on Abiram, Dathan and Korah's side, get upon the other side. Ain't that right? And when they stepped over on the other side the earth just opened up and swallowed them up and uh, Moses went on and builded the Tabernacle just like God had showed him and told him in the Vision. Ain't that right? And so now, what we're talking about now, EVERYTHING IN EXIS- TENCE, from the atom, uh, from everything. Paul said, 'the
invisible things of Him, from the Creation of the World, are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His Eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse'. Nobody's got no excuse for not knowing something about God, as He really is. Ain't that right? God is three- fold, that is to say He's YAHWEH, ELOHIM AND YAHSHUA. You understand what I mean? Yes, we have it upon the board here. And as He said now, He come in His Father's Name...I want to touch this, you understand, and His Father's Name was YAHWEH, you understand, and when He took on shape and form, that's what you see here in the Vision, then, that's ELOHIM. That's YAHWEH
in shape and form, you understand... in shape and form. And then Moses looked at Him, and he saw Him in shape and form that appeared in the mountain, and he said that God, you understand
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...you have in your Bibles, well, it isn't true, he said, Elohim, made the Man in His own likeness and in His own image. You understand? So if He's going to make him in His Likeness,
in His Own Image, you understand, you under...then here, if His Name was YAHWEH and when He come in His Father's Name, then, don't you see YAH, here, and it's got to be YAH-SHUA, see, this
is, this is, this is who you call Jesus, you understand. But you see He can't be called Jesus because YAH is His Father's Name, you understand, and He come in His Father's Name, and in His Father's Name, Jesus Christ is no parts of it. You see what I'm talking about? I'M JUST GIVING IT TO YOU STRAIGHT, YOU CAN HAVE IT IF YOU WANT IT, you can, uh, turn it down if you uh, if you don't want it, it's alright with me! You under-
stand what I'm talking about? And then he said that Man uh, he heard...Moses said he heard God say, 'Let Us make man in Our own Likeness and in Our own Image. Ain't that right? So if the Godhead was three-fold, the Father, the Word and the Holy Spirit and these three are one, and if Man is made in His own Likeness and in His own Image, you understand, which Moses said
that he was, then, you got to be in the Likeness and Image of God...that is to say, you got to be pneuma, psyche and soma, a soul, body and a spirit—Ain't that right?--just like He was. Then when you go on back into Atomic Research and on down into Geology and on down into Paleontology and ANYTHING...ANY KIND OF SCIENCE YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT, you understand, and then, you will find there are...—inaudible—Ain't that right? You will find that according to the atom's anatomy and physiology,
it is a proton and a neutron and electron. You understand what I'm talking about? EVERY SPOT OF MATTER IS SHAPED AND FORMED as it is to reflect the Godhead in nature. That's why 'the invisible things of Him, from the Creation of the World, are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made'. Moses made the Tabernacle, it was three-fold. Noah made the Ark and it was three stories. Uh, ain't that right? And so now, Noah had heard that Voice from Heaven, too. Ain't that right? SAID, NOAH HEARD THE VOICE FROM HEAVEN, SAID, 'MAKE ME
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AN ARK'!! THE END...THE END OF ALL THINGS HAS COME BEFORE ME!! And waters come to...straight from Heaven. Ain't that right? And then, he told him just how to make it. Ain't that right? And so, Noah built that Ark three stories, uh, high. Ain't
that right? And, here time come around...I don't have time to hang around, then I got that vision, uh—Ain't that right?—it was thundering and lightening. Noah built the ark and he built
it just like the voice from heaven told him to build it—Ain't that right?—and, that was three stories. Ain't that right? God done made the man like that, AND EVERY OPERATION AND EVERY FUNCTION, each and everyday of that Creation...I think I ought to go back here and touch it. You understand what I'm talking about? EVERYDAY, when you read down through Genesis, the
first, you will find when God divided the waters. What'd He do that for? Somebody said, well, you're meddling in God's busi- ness, you understand. I beg you pardon, you understand, not meddling in God's business, because the Most Holy Place and the Holy Place and the Outer Court is divided. Ain't that right? Those three factions and those three are parts of...constructed parts, is in that Tabernacle. Ain't that right? And that's why they have to be in an atom...that's why they have to be in the Man...that's why they have to be in Noah's Ark...that's why they have to be in the Tabernacle, that Moses made, that's why
they have to be in the Temple. Ain't that right? YOU DON'T HAVE NO EXCUSE AT ALL! Ain't that right? God's eliminated and abolished every, uh, uh, excuse, you understand, that you would have. And let me say this, in the Beginning of that Migration, when Moses brought the Children of Israel...in the Beginning, you understand, now, listen, let me close here, because you
never heard this before, you understand. In the Beginning, when they put the blood on each side of the lintel of the door, at the Passover, down in Egypt, you understand, it was dark down there when they put that on there, you understand. And Moses heard that Voice, and He told him there, you understand, that Voice from Heaven...and He told him, uh, about this Pass- over. Ain't that right? And It told him to do it here...It
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told him to do...put the blood on each sides of the lintels of the door, and up over the posts. Ain't that right? And Moses prepared that Passover, according to that Voice that he heard
from Heaven. Ain't...you see what I'm talking about? And that's before Israel left there, you understand. And it was dark down in Egypt, you understand. NOW, WATCH THIS ONE, WATCH IT CLOSE, so you can see, cause I'll be on over in Revelation
11:8—get it for me, somebody—because John has got to see the selfsame thing. I want you to see that how John is confirming that which was written, and Messiah, when He was walking around in the flesh, He was fulfilling what Moses and the Prophets had said, and John, he's out there on the Isle of Patmos, and ALL
...THE WHOLE THING is just tying right in together. You see what I'm talking about? And it's the thing that the ministry don't understand, today, you understand, anymore more so then
they did out here before, you understand. And it is the way that God has prepared to judge the World in Righteousness, by that MAN, whom He hath ordained, that is to say, by the MAN whom He had Ordained...Fulfilled every jot and every title of it, and passed it out of the way, and He made a fool out of the, the wise—You understand?—and the smart boys that was dealing in the...in matter, you understand. And when they moved them Carnal Ordinances, the World out here, the Papacy
and the Protestant Churches too, is going on dip-dabbling in the things that was under the Old Covenant. Ain't that right? Such as Water Baptism, footwashing...YES SIR, I'M TELLING YOU ABOUT IT, that's all there is to it, folks! I heard the Voice from Heaven, and that's it. You understand what I'm talking about? You understand what I said? Now look here, uh, now uh, John is out on the Isle of Patmos, and I want you to see how he confirms this what's down here. And let me tell you the story about, here, first before how, um uh, so you can see some
reality in the story and you can realize that it is not a fantastic tale about Yahweh. And when he put that blood on each side of the lintel of the door and that Lamb was slain, down there, IT WAS A FIGURE, as John said. That Lamb that was
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slain before the foundations of the world, in the Purpose of God, you understand, even before He made the man, He made the preparation for his restoration, because it's no surprise to God that the man failed, and because He prepared the sacrifice, uh, to offer for his restoration and his redemption, even before He made the world. And it was Purposed down here, all
that, in the, in, in Egypt. Now listen, while I try to get into this chronologically and every other kind of way. This Passover, down here, told him that God...a Lamb of the First year, DRAW HIM OUT, yet drawing out, you understand, and the uh, the, first--(tape cuts off at this point).
And Paul says this, he says, many of them, he says, which slept in the dust of the earth, arose and went on into Jerusa- lem. See what I'm saying? Now you watch this, I'm after the Cloud this time. You understand? The 12th Chapter of Hebrews he says, 'Wherefore, seeing we all are compassed or surrounded by so-o-o-o great a cloud, see, of witnesses...', see, all of them from Adam on down, you understand, when He resurrected
from the dead He brought the Life into Immortality...the Life to the thousands throughout the generations, something we all needed. You understand? And God—Listen!—is going to mul- tiply the seed of Abraham, as the sands of the sea and as the stars in Heaven, so, 'Wherefore, seeing we're surrounded or compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin that does so easily beset us,
and run with patience the race that is set before us, looking ever, unto Yahshua the Messiah, Who is the Author and the Finisher of our Faith...'
No wonder Jude said, '...it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that you should earnestly contend for the Faith which was once delivered unto the saints, and I know those who are seventy years old, who are ordained into this condemnation, you understand, who have gone out into the World, crept in unawares, you understand, and turned the Grace of Our
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God into lasciviousness... turned them into 'works'--You under- stand?—'Works of Righteousness1! They're telling you to get baptized and get your feet washed and all these Carnal Ordi- nances that was under the Old Covenant back here... that's what He's done, see, He hid these things from the Wise and the Prudent.
And now, we're offering up Spiritual Sacrifices...when in the Kingdom of God it's Spiritual. You understand? You are con- trolled by the Law of the Spirit, see, it was them Tables of Stone, Paul and them just said that, you understand, and that's how He hid these things from the Wise and the Prudent, and Revealed them unto Babes. You understand? And Paul puts it this way in the 8th Chapter of Romans, 'There is, therefore,
now - LISTEN AT ME! Yeah, I CAN'T HELP YOU, so be in Heaven
or Hell, or one, REAL SOON! Now see what I'm talking about? THIS AGE IS JUST ABOUT TO CLOSE, you see. The first one was sixteen hundred and fifty-six, and this in nineteen thirty-two! Ain't that right? You understand? You...we ain't in the one BEFORE! And Messiah said in the 24th chapter of Matthew,
'...EXCEPT THOSE DAYS BE SHORTENED, it wouldn't be no flesh saved...' You understand what I'm talking about? If you got
to give you got to give by Faith, for you to have this, ah, ah...the words have GOT TO come by Faith. YOU GOT TO SEE HOW IT'S PUT TOGETHER! IT'S GOT TO BECOME A REALITY IN YOU! YOU UNDERSTAND? YOU GOT TO KNOW HOW IT WORKS, YOU GOT TO FEEL THE SPIRIT WORKING WITHIN YOU! YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT? IT'S GOT TO BE A REALITY WITHIN YOU, THAT'S IMPERATIVE, WHEREVER, THERE, IT SAYS ABOUT...YOU GOT TO KNOW IT FOR YOUR- SELF!! You see what I'm talking about? The big shots and the
leaders of Christendom... YOU GOT TO KNOW THIS THING FOR YOUR- SELF! IT'S GOT TO BE A, FACT...FACT WITHIN YOU! YOU, INDIVIDUALLY AND PERSONALLY!! You see what I'm talking about? IT'S YOU THAT'S GOT TO BE SAVED!
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they say out yonder. You see what I'm talking about? You know that it's hid from the Wise and Imprudent and Revealed through the Babe. You understand? And all of this natural, wherever they're doing footwashing and everything... all of this carnal-
ity and all of this is natural, and all of this over on this side is Spiritual, and that's what the boys can't see. You understand? And they call themselves celebrating the things that was done under the Law. GOD HIMSELF SAID, GOD SAID IT— I'll be done in a very few minutes—GOD SAID...I DIDN'T SAY IT, and that's the thing I'm trying to tell you about now! I HEARD THAT VOICE FROM HEAVEN, CONFIRMING, and it showed it to me, how it operated all the way through. You understand? And that's the reason why I'm GAME enough to get out here and talk it and tell you about it—You understand?--and how He's hid the thing
from the Wise and Imprudent, and Revealed it unto Babes. And the Apostle Paul said in the 8th Chapter of Romans, 'THERE IS, THEREFORE, NOW, NO CONDEMNATION to them that are in Christ Jesus...' How did you get in? You understand what I'm talking about? He said in I Corinthians 12:13, '...by ONE Spirit are ye all baptized into the one body, whether you be Jews or Gen- tile...' Ain't that right? NO WATER BAPTISM!!! Ain't that right? You understand? And you know they use water baptism as what the...Jesus said...as you repent... say, 'He that believeth on me, as the Scriptures hath said, out of his belly shall flow
RIVERS OF LIVING WATERS'! Don't you know the difference between 'living water' and that that flows behind the pool? You under- stand what I'm talking about? John said, '...this spake He of
the Spirit...' Ain't that right? Shown to me...got away from that natural and into the Spirit, and there's where the smart boys got lost. Ain't that right? And so now, here we are out here, we're preaching that, ah—LISTEN AT ME NOW!—WE'RE PREACHING THE REMISSION OF SIN...END OF THE AGE! You under- stand ...understand? And Joel wrote, ah, Luke said, '...the remission of sins should be preached in His Name, beginning at Jerusalem.' Ain't that right? You can wash all the skin off of you, you understand, drag you through the Pacific and the
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Atlantic Oceans and it ain't gonna do you no good. Ain't that right? Tried to offer up a bullock...turtledove, it DIDN'T purify you...unto the speaking, or, it didn't purify the con- science that was, ah, under that Dispensation back there. And Paul said, '...HOW MUCH MORE shall the Blood of Yahshua the Messiah purge...' THAT'S THE SACRIFICE THAT GOD HAS GIVEN!! Ain't that right? The Gospel say He shed His Blood...He shed His Blood out there on Golgotha—Ain't that right?—He offered Himself without spot to purge your conscience FROM THE DEAD WORKS, from all this water baptism and all this, or, eating
these physical suppers that was under the other covenant--Ain't that right?--and they pointed to Spiritual things. And now, He's nailed them to the Cross, that they...and now, the Kingdom of God is—WATCH—the Kingdom back before Him, it stood only in meats and drinks, but now on this side, Paul tells us '...the Kingdom of God is not meats and drink...' Well, if it's not that, just what is it? It's Righteousness, Peace and Joy in the Holy Ghost. Now ain't that right? And Jesus said Himself
that YE masticate in your mouth, and it passes on down the esophagus and on down into your stomach and it's digested and assimilated--Ain't that right?--and your intestinal tract passes it on to the abdominal cavity and on into your blood-
stream, you understand, that's for the physical body, well, I'm not talking about that, I'm talking about your inner-self, THAT INNER MAN, which is the Holy Ghost. You see what I'm talking about? You got to have some different bread than that, you understand. As the Messiah told 'em, said look here, 'all your
fathers, they ate that bread back yonder in the Wilderness, but they're dead.' Ain't that right? But the Bread that I shall give, if you eat thereof, ye shall not die.' Ain't that right? You understand? And this water that you're talking about, you understand, IF YOU DRINK, YOU'LL NEVER THIRST. You understand what I'm talking about? We're talking about Spiritual things, and the Devil is standing there talking about physical things and saying that you got to do these things, and blaming it on the Messiah, that He said go and baptize somebody in physical
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water. He never said nothing about it, said, '...baptize them in the Name...', He didn't say 'baptize them in the water'. Ain't that right? Cause us to feed...what you call yourself eating the Lord's Supper, out yonder on the first of every month. Paul said, "LET US KEEP the feast of unleaven bread of sincerity and truth.' You see what I'm talking about? I'm
feeding you that Bread which...Word of God, I'm baptizing you in the Name—You understand?—and I'm washing your feet, the Washing of Regeneration and the Preaching of the Gospel is YAHSHUA the Messiah. EVERYTHING that is done is all done in His Name. You understand what I'm talking about? He's a Quickening Spirit and He's in your heart and in my heart, nothing that you can do and it's not by 'Works of Righteous- ness', which we have done or will do, you understand. As it was by His Grace are you saved, or, by Grace are you saved
through the Faith, that, not of yourself, IT'S A GIFT, FREELY given of God--You understand?--you don't merit nothing. Somebody said, well, listen here, obedience is better than sacrifice, said, He said go out here and get baptized in the water, if it was good enough for Him, when John baptized Him, it's good enough for me, you understand, but say, look here, DON'T PUT NO LIE LIKE THAT ON HIM, HE DIDN'T SAY IT!! LISTEN FOLKS, HE COULDN'T COME AND FULFILL AND ABOLISH THE CARNAL ORDINANCES, which is under the second...under the First cove- nant, then send somebody out to, to do the things that was done under the Old Covenant! YOU'RE A LIAR, HE NEVER SENT NOBODY TO DO NOTHING LIKE THAT! You understand? He never told NOBODY TO
BAPTIZE NOBODY, He never told nobody to eat no Lord's Supper, He never told nobody to keep no Passover, He never told nobody to wash nobody's feet! Ain't that right? Somebody said, well, you can't read. Can't you see here in the 13th Chapter of Saint John, when Jesus is washing His Disciples' feet, and He
said to them, says, 'If I be your Lord and Master, and have washed your feet, ye also ought to wash one another's feet.' And He got around to ole Pete, and he said to Him...Peter
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1 He said, 'IF I DON'T WASH 'em, you won't have no part with me .
Ain't that right? You understand? And that was physical water which was washing their feet, you understand, and there are
some parties out there that's celebrating that and washing feet, because Jesus washed the Disciples' feet, and the Papacy, over there, they celebrate washing feet. But when He told... got to Peter there, you understand, He told him, 'If I DON'T
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wash 'em, you won't have no part with me . He's GOT to fulfill
that Law! Moses brought ah, Aaron, Nadab and Abihu to the door of the Tabernacle and he washed them there, and he put the linen garments on them--Ain't that right? BEFORE they could officiate in the Tabernacle. And so now, if He's going to fulfill it, He's got to wash their feet, don't, they won't have no part, or Life in that Ministry. You see what I'm talking about? And He's got to fulfill it, and so now when He got around to Peter
—Listen at me, folks!—and there He was down there washing the Disciples' feet and Peter said, 'You'll never wash my feet'.
He told Peter, said, '...you don't know what I'm doing, now... yes, Peter DID KNOW that He was washing their feet, you under-
stand, he said, you're never gonna wash his feet, but Peter DIDN'T UNDERSTAND the significance of it. LISTEN FOLKS, THAT WAS THE WORD OF GOD, AND THAT HE WAS FULFILLING THE LAW AND THE PROPHECY, AND IT'S THE WORD OF GOD THAT'S WASHING HIS FEET!
You understand what I'm talking about? And so, if the Word of God DON'T wash you, you understand, you'll NEVER be clean, you understand. And I've got to go there...told Peter, said, look here, '...you don't know what I'm doing now, but you shall know
hereafter.' You understand? And when Peter got the Holy Ghost on the Day of Pentecost and Paul and the rest 'em, ya know, and then he turns around and says, look here, HUSBANDS LOVE YOUR WIVES, Messiah, OH, so loved the Church, that He says, gave Himself for it—LISTEN AT ME FOLKS!—that He might sanctify and cleanse it, by the washing of the water...by the Word—You understand what I'm talking about? IT IS THE WASHING OF REGENERATION and HE IS THE REGENERATOR, you understand, and IT
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YOU THE WORD OF GOD, you understand, and you are clean through the water which I have spoken unto you. I can wash you all day long down here, with a basin and some water, you understand, I can drag you through...as I said, the Pacific and the Atlantic Oceans, you understand, but you are saved...utterly understand, ah, it was one of them times somebody said...'What reason that,
said, you can't read? Can't you see over there in the 6th Chapter of Acts of the Apostles, where Philip baptized the Ethiopian eunuch? And he said he stopped the chariot..said, GO—You understand?—ah said, ah, here's water—What did Jesus
reveal?--and baptized the eunuch and said to him--Ain't that right?—and Philip said ah, if you believe with all your heart, thou mayest'. Ain't that right? And he stopped and both Philip and the eunuch went down into--I mean PHYSICAL water-- and Philip DID baptize in water. And somebody say, Philip was carrying out the Great Commission—NOW SIT STILL FOLKS!—ah, understand...Philip was carrying out the Great Commission and he was going to, to fulfill that which was said back in
Matthew 28:19, when He said, 'Go in all the World and preach the Gospel to every creature, he that believeth on Me, you understand, and is baptized shall be saved, and he that believeth not shall be damned.' And now, in the 28th chapter,
says, '...baptizing in the Name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost...', and listen here, you haven't... NOBODY, sitting under the sound of my voice, has been baptized in no water, in the Name of YAHWEH. NOBODY, sitting under the sound of my voice, has been baptized in the Name of ELOHIM, NOBODY, sitting under the sound of my voice, has been baptized in the Name of YAHSHUA. They told you to go out here and get baptized in the name of Jesus, and in the name of the Father —God—and they told you to get baptized in the Name of the Holy Ghost—and they didn't know what that was. Ain't that
right? And so, let's get on to offend you. Now listen here, Messiah sent them twelve out to preach. Ain't that right? Now look here, I want you to notice the difference now, you under-
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faithful. Ain't that right? The Master, before He ascended, He told the eleven there, Judas was dead—Ain't that right?— said, '...You shall be witnesses unto me in Judea, and in Jerusalem and Samaria...' AIN'T THAT RIGHT?! NOW, WATCH NOW, WATCH THE JOKE, watch the joker, you understand. Said, they will be witness unto me...Philip went down to Samaria and he preached the Gospel to the whole city of Samaria, and he was FULL of the Holy Ghost, too. Ain't that right? But now, none
of 'em down in Samaria got the Holy Ghost, so say the letter. Well, what's the matter, why didn't they get the Holy Ghost down there, you understand? Samaria was the capital of the ten
tribes. Ain't that right? And now, Messiah has put them twelve tribes back together again, and they are the witnesses, the ones that He sent to preach the Gospel, you understand. Philip wasn't sent—You understand?—he was persecuted and run off there to call it, ah, the persecution—Ain't that right? —and went down to Samaria, you understand, and preached... nobody got the Holy Ghost down in Samaria, then, WHY SHOULD YOU ASSUME that you... your...YOU GOT THE HOLY GHOST, when Philip baptized him? You see what I'm talking about? And now, and
then not only that, Philip—LISTEN AT ME NOW, LISTEN AT ME CLOSE!—Philip was on his way home, he wasn't on his way, ah, going in all the world, to preach the Gospel. Philip LIVED in Caesarea. Ain't that right? And Philip went on away from Gaza, after he baptized the Ethiopian eunuch in, ah, ah, the water there and he went on to Caesarea. Ain't that right? By
and by, when time come for the Gentiles to come in, down in Caesarea, God sent on up there and told, ah, Cornelius to go on up there to Joppa and get Peter. Ain't that right? Now ah, if Philip was carrying out the Great Commission—You understand?-- and he lived right across the street there, so...it's the
street from the, ah, ah, from ah, ah, ah, Cornelius and his household, and he was carrying out the Great Commission, why didn't he go across there and baptize them? Why didn't God tell him...send him on up there to Joppa, you understand? And
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then Peter, Pete spoke it. Ain't that right? Now the Gentiles ...the Holy Ghost fell on them. Ain't that right? What God
was doing is bringing them in according to the way He made the Promise to the Gentiles... according to the way He made the Pro- mise to Abraham, you understand, that in his seed, He, would bless all the Families of the Earth. And have you forgotten that I have told you that there wasn't nobody but the Jews that was baptized in the Red Sea, and it wasn't NOBODY but Jews that was baptized at John's baptism? You understand? So then, there
can't be nobody but Jews, you understand, that had any water about them, and listen, in that planting, when the Seed of Vegetation was brought up, in the 11th Chapter of Romans, Paul
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ing out the Spirit on them, while he yet spoke there. You understand what I'm talking about? You see to what I'm talking about?
Now God showed me all these things in a Vision, you see. And all these things that these preachers is doing...got somebody hanging around, you understand, ah, taking some ah, crackers and grape juice on plates, you understand, and running somebody up in here and blaming it all on Messiah—You understand?—He
said nothing about it. And listen, you haven't got nothing, and, YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET NOTHING until you straighten up. You understand? And that's in the space of this Cloud. You see what I mean? You say, yes, yes, I, I know that's what you mean! You see what I mean? It was revealed to me that that's what it's all about, that's why this School was founded. See, they're not going to let you know anything about Yahshua the Messiah. You see? You see what I'm talking about? And I have carried it on down, in what I've been saying to you, see, I've carried it on down and you can take it right on back. Can't you see, there's the blood...when the last one rose up from the
said that '...the Gentiles, THEY ARE GRAFTED ON IN...
does that happen? GRAFTED IN BY FAITH—YOU UNDERSTAND?—AND NOT BY PLANTING, but by GRAFTING—You understand?—according to the way He made the Promise...God wasn't mistakened by pour-
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How
dead, and Yahshua the Messiah was here, and poured out the Holy ...this is where the Covenant was revealed on the Day of Pente-
cost. See, you got the blood, water, spirit, blood, water, spirit, BLOOD, WATER just keep it that way, always, ALWAYS, clear on down unto THIS YEAR. IT DON'T MAKE NO DIFFERENCE WHERE YOU COME FROM, you're wrong! You see what I'm talking about? And let me tell you something, friend, WE DON'T MAKE MISTAKES here, see, and we're not guessing about it. And, what I have seen, I HAVE SEEN, and to prove it to you, you under- stand, every prediction... I really, I don't make predictions, see, it's the Holy Spirit, now I'm just showing you how the repetitions come up in the...and that's how I can tell you when it's going to be an earthquake, or, what the next thing is to happen. You understand? And I never went...I never failed
...I never miss it, and then somebody says back there, say well, I don't believe it. You understand what I'm talking about? I know all of that, you understand. Says, well now, you've done
a good job, you just let me preach it. You understand? See, you understand it? But now look, God has RAISED up me, see, they've been healed of all kinds of diseases. You understand? EVEN THE DEAD HAVE BEEN RAISED! You understand? We got medi- cal authorities from all over this country—You understand? —and YOU DON'T KNOW NOBODY—LISTEN, I've told you I was sick —YOU DON'T KNOW NOBODY, you see, and you don't know nobody
that says they know somebody, that says they know somebody, nor do they know about what's going on in the World, for thirty-
five years, that's what I have. NOBODY, nobody...run right on between Life and Death...one verses the other. I told you when Cardinal Stritch would draw his last breath...standing in the pulpit. You're an eye witness. Didn't he die that instant? I told you about Pope John the 23rd, I told you when he would die, a year before time (see Text, "Elohim, the Archtype Original Pattern of the Universe, Vol IV, p. 61). I told you that Pope Pius the 12th, would tell a lie, and what the lie would be. Didn't I tell you before he lied?
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Miracle of Fatima in 1917, see Appendix II of The Third World War by Lee Warren), Pope Pius XII decreed the following:
"By the authority of Lord Jesus Christ of the Blessed Apostles Peter and Paul, and by our own authority, we pronounce, declare, define as Divine dogma: The Imma- culate Mother of God, Mary ever Virgin, after her life on earth, was assumed body and soul to the glory of
Heaven. The Catholic Catechism by John A. Hardon, S.
J., pp. 149-171)
And didn't he tell it? See, I've told you what's happening all along. Children, I'm sincere about that, I'm interested. See, all I'm trying to do is give you, see, what God has give to me,
if you don't want it, it won't make... see, it's your fault.
You understand? But truthfully, I HEARD THAT VOICE FROM HEAVEN, I heard that Voice...the Glory that was sent from Christ, all in my Mind—You understand?—AND I WAS SENT, in this last day, you understand, JUST BEFORE ITS GOING DOWN, the curtain, to
show you the Reality of it! And I hope and trust that you would take it for what it's worth and investigate some of it, you understand, there's no need for all those sayings, you understand. Well, they preach that down...out there, to me and
I do it, you see, the Bishops and Christians in the World, haven't forgive me for teaching that, and then they got you believing it. You understand? And the medical authorities' reports, in the World, learn now that you have it. Isn't that right? Christian universities and the 'little boys'—You understand me?--it just can't be done. You understand me? God
is a Living Reality! It's here now, in you, whether you're conscious of it or not, it's here, in the bed, when you're home, when you're at work. You understand? And listen, there is but One Mediator between God and Man, and that is the Quickening Spirit, and that is God, Himself. There's no bogus claim, you see, I'm no bogus claim. No hocus and no preaching those Carnal Ordinances, nothing like that...no bogus claim. You understand? It's that Quickening Spirit, it's the Holy Spirit in you, THAT, IS THE ONLY HOPE OF IMMORTAL GLORY.
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God Bless You.
NOTE:
This 90-minute tape is one of a set of lectures entitled 'I Heard A Voice From Heaven' given by the Founder and Dean, Dr. Henry Clifford Kinley, of the
Institute of Divine Metaphysical Research, Inc. If there is anyone, anywhere, that possesses more of these tapes, please, contact me at the address below. Myself and many others would like to hear these lectures.
School Address:
IDMR, Inc. - DTC
c/o Dr. Lee Warren
2010 North Howe Chicago, Illinois 60610 312/751-0181
This transcript was given out October 10, 1986 at the Downtown Chicago Fall Seminar.
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